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Friday, 10 October 2008
Stossel and ABC encouraging young voters to stay home, because they're allegedly too dumb to vote
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Too dumb to vote? Well what's so significant about that age group. Look at all the voters in 2000, 2004 - even 2006 who were too dumb to vote but voted anyway.

 

 

From Crooks & Liars

 

The Show: ABC's 20/20 Friday 10th October. The message: young people are too dumb to vote and should stay home instead. That's the thrust of a segment by John Stossel, self-proclaimed "libertarian" and regular contributor to the hard-right's fanzine, Commentary.

 

Click on C&L link to read entire article. Well worth it.


Posted SwanDeer Project at 12:01 AM PDT
Updated: Friday, 10 October 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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Tuesday, 29 July 2008
Hannity hates America.
Now Playing: I endorse this opinion
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal
"At the Unitarian Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, Jim Adkisson, a fan of yours, killed two people, wounded five others, and left an entire congregation and country shaken by his actions. Actions prompted, as he testified in his own written notes, by the ideas contained in your words."
on broadcast betrayal ...
I endorse this opinion

Docudharma : Congratulations

 
[Excerpt]

Congratulations, Sean Hannity. Congratulations, Bill O Reilly, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh.
.......and anyone else who supports that shit and makes it profitable.
...... YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN. THIS BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.

 

And this via RD and Huffpo 

 


Affidavit: Man admits church shooting, says liberals should die


Jim Adkisson said liberals should be killed because they're ruining the nation, according to an affidavit.

Posted SwanDeer Project at 6:40 AM PDT
Updated: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 7:13 AM PDT
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Monday, 25 February 2008
Can't find one long-lasting culture founded on public patriotism
Now Playing: Networks and Reporters Desparate for an angle
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Pike Boomdropper came by tonight to invite me to a public meeting. Said the the movers and the shakers in the neighborhood have decided that a body might not be a patriot if they're not wearin a little lapel on their bib overalls when they go into the tavern to talk real man talk.

Said his wife was setting up a special meeting of the Ladies' Home Culture Club to draw up a petition for the village of Bay Center to pass a resolution declaring Obama an Arnold Benedict to our country cause he aint got no flyin flutterin flag badge of courage on his suit lapel.

Rumor has it that Obama also ain't willing to hold his hand on his stomach when he says the pledge. Don't recall hearing that Obama refused to say the pledge - which ought to be the better test than where he puts his hands.  Heck, when I was in high school I knowed a kid put his hand on his girl friend's chest every time the pledge was being said. He thought it was funny.

Course that was before desperate networks with desperate needs decided that even the most trivial of topics might earn a buck.

Can you imagine all the cheeks-puffed, red-face pundit/patriots who've found more than one way to betray the public seating and groaning about whether or not a lapel makes a fellow patriotic?

I do know that the Republican Party is full of partiots who advocated and voted for war and never served back when they could. I do know that some of the biggest chest pounders for war based on flag wavin have themselves been unwilling to put their boots where their mouths are.

I don't watch much cable and what little I do is on MSN. The other two sell nothing but trivialities - you know, the mountain groans and labors and gives birth to a mouse

.

 Hail The Irrelevant Broadcast Patriots


Posted SwanDeer Project at 8:54 PM PST
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Friday, 18 January 2008
When Tony as an old Cold Warrior is aroused by Fluffy Erica Jong, it means something.
Now Playing: My Friend Tony is upset again
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Tony and me - we're veterans. He's a former First Shirt (First Sargent - not to be confused with Sargent Majors who seem to be most famous when they get accused of sexual abuse of female underlings.)

No, Tony and me - we're conservative about America's core values. When Tony forwards me stuff that has him aroused, it's worth reading.

 

 Like this morning's email revealing that Erica Jong has got him aroused. No ...  not "aroused" from the viagra point of view. But from the "By God This Time They've Gone Too Far" kind of arousal.

Now years ago Tony and I had no time for Erica's frivolous writings in the 70's.

You know ... 

  Erica Jong is the author of eight novels including Fear of Flying; Fanny, Being the True History of the Adventures of Fanny Hackabout-Jones; Shylock's Daughter (formerly titled Serenissima); Inventing Memory, a story of mothers and daughters, and the new novel SAPPHO'S LEAP. Several of her novels have been worldwide bestsellers. Her other books include the nonfiction works Fear of Fifty: A Midlife Memoir; The Devil at Large, a study of Henry Miller; Witches; and What Do Women Want, and six volumes of poetry. - Huffo

Tony and I were Cold Warriors fighting for Cold War stuff and values. These were the values that still meant the good old fashioned American Pie stuff and not the fluffy directions Jong's honest, self-revealing and pop-psychology stuff were taking us.

So when Tony as an old Cold Warrior is aroused by Fluffy Erica Jong, it means something. I read the Erica Jong/Huffpo article Tony arousingly sent me.  

And agreed when she said this:

I want to talk not about candidates but about our media turning every presidential election into a high school popularity contest.

 

And this:

Our magazines and newspapers are so dumbed down that they never discuss issues, only stereotype or attack or puff up candidates -- and all for the most idiotic things -- like their marriages, which in truth we know nothing about -- or their weight or their clothes or their hair. They don't discuss brains, intelligence, psychological maturity, but only who's up or down in the polls, cuter in photos, who misted up, cried or didn't cry, said "my friends" like Reagan or mimicked Bill Clinton's style or JFK's or whomever's. Our press is a disgrace.

 And this:

We never discuss psychological depth because hey, who cares if the president's a bomb-happy dry-drunk trying to play out an Oedipal war with his father? We never talk about people being tested in power or how steady they are or whether they read books or understand what they read because we judge them on their looks. Or one idiotic sound byte, taken out of context.

And this:

I like shooting my mouth off on the Op-Ed page as much as anyone. Besides women writers are only drafted for the most trivial subjects. We comment on style not substance, beards not policy, clothes and shoes and chick lit and cooking. The men get the big topics like war, though women have the most to lose--like their children whom they carried and nursed and suckled and love more than themselves--as of course do many men.

And this:

If Eleanor Roosevelt were alive and running, they'd talk about her big teeth and her hoity toity accent. If JFK were alive and running, they'd reveal his affair with Marilyn and slander his wife for it. If Jackie O were alive and running, they'd say she fucked Onassis -- which she did -- while she was married to JFK. If Plato were alive and running, they'd say he was gay--though many Greeks were bisexual and thought nothing of it.

So kids, if you elect a President of the United States like you elected the President of the GO in High School, you deserve what you get.

Now I'm sure Tony and me ain't never gonna read Fear of Flying mostly cause we're too busy digging through bull pucky and trying to cope with news proclaimers' Fear of Substance

 


 

 

NOTE:  Tony gets a copy of these posts. He responded right back as follows:

Good Morning Old Chap. 

I like your website.  Very sophisticated and eye-catching.  I think I will start reading it more often. 

By the way, I did read Fear of Flying and she is a decent writer.  I would be surprised if you didn't read her work as well.

Even though I was on the war wagon in the 60s and a hot shot PI in the 70s, I still tried to keep up with what was going on politically in our great country. 

I was even a registered Conservative fighting for less government at one time until I realized those guys were only interested in power and money, not the people they represented; and as far as I can figure, our country is supposed be about protecting and taking care of the citizens and being an example to the world of the right kind of freedom and justice, not just exploiting and manipulating them for corporate greed and trying to do the same around the world.

So how did NAFTA actually help the US? Wasn't this the precursor to outsourcing our economy?

I found it interesting that one state has made it law that only American flags made in the US can be sold there.

Ah, we can go on and on. 

You, better than most, know the drill.  I am impressed you have taken a step back from the political arena and are not wasting your precious time shilling for the Democrats. 

We are way beyond parties these days. Most politicians today seem to be self-serving, willing to sell out for success.  They have lost their way at our expense.

Here is a great quote for you for your Blog a Rag about war from a truly great author, Tom Clancy in "The Bear and the Dragon"

"Wars are not rational acts.  They are not begun by rational men.  They are begun by people who don't care a rat fuck about the people they rule, who are willing to get their fellow men killed for their own narrow purposes."


Posted SwanDeer Project at 6:50 AM PST
Updated: Friday, 18 January 2008 2:53 PM PST
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Thursday, 25 October 2007
They're everywhere! Behind every bush, every garbage dumpster and every forest fire in America!
Now Playing: Fox Bullshit
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann via Crooks and Liars 

Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann 

They have to come up with super-human powers for Al Qaeda because they want to use Al Qaeda to justify a super-extreme agenda for the United States of America.

If you really, really want to radically transform our government and radically transform who we are as a country;

if you want East German style policing, and people informing on their neighbors, and you want to get rid of the Fourth Amendment, and you want endless wars conducted for profit;

if you want to completely get rid of the safety net function and the regulatory function of the government; if you have an agenda that radical, you better have a really radical justification for it.

And so they have to elevate this band of death cults, fundamentalist criminals into a threat that is greater than the Soviet Union ever was when they not only had a military but they had thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at our country.

They have to make Al Qaeda even worse than that.


Posted SwanDeer Project at 6:56 AM PDT
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Friday, 3 August 2007
When will it finally end?
Now Playing: How many more peaks must Rupert surmount?
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Mike Lukovich via TRUTHDIG

Posted SwanDeer Project at 8:42 PM PDT
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Wednesday, 11 July 2007
When I want news I can trust I have to find it myself
Now Playing: When I want to know what the government wants me to know ...
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

I can always watch CNN, Wolf Blitzer, Gupta and company.

When I want to know what the dumbed down in this country are expected to know ...

when I want to know what mushrooms are given to know ...

I could tune into Faux News.

We've almost decided to cancel our cable TV and restrict all three sets in our house to DVD's ...

... risk living without the higher information available thanks to Big pharma, Big business and government manipuation and non-step distraction frpom what's really important by repetitive entertainment and sensational but shallow  news of titillating import.

 But if we take the boob out of toob, what happens if a tsunami threatens Willapa Bay? Wouldn't we need TV to update?

You know ... "we interrupt this hard-on commercial to bring you breaking news about a tsunami headed for Willapa Bay." 

 But then isn't that what radio is supposed to do?

And doesn't the county sheriff have a phone system to warn residents of this kind of stuff?

Don't we need to know amber alert stuff and what armed and dangerous felon or registered sex offender is on the run out of Seattle or Portland and headed our way?

Heck, I don't know. I think I'll take a chance on telephone, internet, radio and watching from the beach.

At least if I watch from the beach what I see will be real and not brought to me by Big Anything but God.

Posted SwanDeer Project at 7:20 AM PDT
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Sunday, 17 June 2007
There's nothing for Demo's to gain by debating on Fox News
Now Playing: Debating before an audience of the weakest civic-minds in the country.
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal
I'm a registered independent voter who feels that I can inform myself quite well without attending any political broadcast worship services complete with hat-passers and speakers throwing the political orthodoxy at me throught their own editorial scripture.

And ya know, an outhouse is no place to find the essence of roses.

The cosmetic odorifically bottled scents for civically challenged white men that exude from the Fox Farmland continue to miss the target:

"Evening in the Barnyard" for the rural white Reflublican voters,

"Three Days on a Troop Train," for the neocon intellectuals and their fighting keyboard Red Guard

"Lazarus of the 96 Hours," - "yea, he stinketh Lord." for the spiritually gullible.

Roger Ailes of "My Armpits Keep the Flies Away From My Nose" fame, can claim that dealing with Fox and Al Qaeda are equally difficult. But in reality, walking around an open septic tank is the sign of a wise politician who'll more readily qualify for my vote.

Go Digby 

 
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Sunday, June 03, 2007


Joan Vennochi must have really been pushing her deadline to come up with this ignorant screed today, excoriating the Democratic field for refusing to debate on Fox:
IF YOU can't face the bad boys of Fox News, how can you face the bad boys of Iraq or Iran?

That's very cute, but it misses the point entirely. What the Democrats are saying is that unlike George W. Bush they aren't dumb enough to legitimize the enemy's propaganda. By pretending that Fox is a news network instead of the official house organ of the Republican Party the Democrats would be doing what Bush has done with al Qaeda --- behaving with such predictable idiocy that it inspires the other side's recruiting.

Furthermore, it's a waste of time. FOX is a partisan Republican network and the Democrats are trying to get Democratic primary votes (who do not and will not watch FOX for any reason.) They might as well be holding the debate in Dick Cheney's office. The vast, vast majority of Fox's audience are older, white, male right-wingers, hard core 28 percenters who would rather stick needles in their eyes than vote for a Democrat. It's ridiculous to think Democrats have any chance of persuading the audience of a network whose most popular show stars a man who says this:

O'REILLY: OK, I think it's a small part, but I think it's there. On the other side, you have people who hate America, and they hate it because it's run primarily by white, Christian men. Let me repeat that. America is run primarily by white, Christian men, and there is a segment of our population who hates that, despises that power structure. So they, under the guise of being compassionate, want to flood the country with foreign nationals, unlimited, unlimited, to change the complexion -- pardon the pun -- of America. Now, that's hatred, too. It's a different kind of hatred, but it's hatred and best exemplified by The New York Times, which today says in its editorial, quote: "Those who want [the immigration] bill to be better are horribly conflicted by it. Their emotions still seem vastly overmatched by the ferocity of the opposition from the restrictionist right, with talk radio lighting up over 'amnesty,' callers spitting out the words with all the hate they can pour into it," unquote.

Now, this is a theme of The New York Times, that if you oppose the immigration bill that you hate Latinos. Now, there's a segment that does, but most oppose it on policy. They just think it's bad policy, rewarding bad behavior. Bad policy. But The New York Times, which is an open border, OK, let-everybody-in concern -- that's what they want, because they want a totally different power structure in America.

Number one, they realize that 40 million new citizens -- and that's, you know, probably the estimate that if you let all the illegal immigrants and all their extended families come here, which is what The New York Times want, would wipe out the two-party system. You'd only have a Democratic party, because new immigrants are probably gonna break 3-to-1 Democrat, and that's what The New York Times wants. But more than that, they want to change the white, Christian male power structure. That's what they want.


I think he knows his audience very well, don't you?

I can't explain why the Congressional Black Caucus Institute is still willing to lend credibility to FOX's bogus claim to being fair and balanced by sponsoring this debate. They are being used as cover for the disgusting swill like that above which FOX's stars spew around the clock every single day and I think it's a mistake. I'm very glad that most of the Democratic candidates have declined to participate.

And in any case there is no excuse for Biden and Kucinich to suggest that their rivals are racist for failing to appear at this debate. Both of them should be ashamed of themselves. Joan Vennochi may just be another columnist on a deadline taking an easy shot but these two should know better.

Posted SwanDeer Project at 7:00 AM PDT
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Saturday, 16 June 2007
Right Wing Talk Radio: useful and necessary as a rubber crutch
Now Playing: Think Progress.rog: Mike Savage and his Orc's behaving badly.
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

From ThinkProgress.org 

C-SPAN Gets Savaged By Right-Wing Radio Listeners

 Last week, right-wing radio host Michael Savage was presented a Freedom of Speech award at Talkers Magazine’s annual New Media Seminar. C-SPAN, which aired portions of the two-day event, chose to not air Savage’s acceptance speech because the conservative talker only appeared in a pre-recorded DVD speech.

Savage is now claiming he is a victim of censorship. Repeatedly attacking C-SPAN this week as “fascists” and modern versions of the “brownshirt movement in Hitler’s Germany,” Savage encouraged his listeners to call and email CSPAN about their supposed “blacklisting” of his speech.

On Washington Journal this morning, host and C-SPAN CEO Brian Lamb read aloud some of the emails he has received from alleged listeners of Savage’s show. The emails defending Savage are filled with personal attacks, referring to Lamb as an “ass loser Communist,” “pervert,” “bed-wetting commie,” and worse. Watch it:

Michael Savage is obviously not responsible for the content of these emails. But it’s worth noting that such attacks are standard fare for Savage’s radio show. According to Savage, MoveOn.org members are “rat-bastard Communists,” supporters of the Fairness Doctrine are “Nazis” and “no different than the Bolsheviks in 1917,” and Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) says things that “Goebbels would be proud of.

As Lamb notes in his introduction to the emails, Savage is also using the faux controversy to make money by charging his fans $20 apiece to buy a copy of the supposedly censored speech.


Posted SwanDeer Project at 10:39 AM PDT
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Sunday, 20 May 2007
Broadcast Betrayal Update
Now Playing: Media Matters
Topic: Broadcast Betrayal

Excerpts from Media Matters:

The Lack of Gender & Ethnic Diversity on the Sunday Morning Talk Shows

Not only are the Sunday morning talk shows on the broadcast networks dominated by conservative opinion and commentary, the four programs -- NBC's Meet the Press, ABC's This Week, CBS' Face the Nation, and Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday -- feature guest lists that are overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly male.

Image:sanjoseca.gov 

And the top-rated Sunday show -- Meet the Press -- shows the least diversity of all. The NBC program is the most male and nearly the most white (Face the Nation beats it out by 1 percentage point), and it has the highest proportion of white males to all other guests.

A breakdown of the guests who appeared on the Sunday shows in 2005 and 2006 shows that men dominate these shows. In fact, men outnumber women by a 4-to-1 ratio on average.

 


Media pounced on Edwards' haircuts, but ignore Giuliani's Iowa farm snub

Image: Wonkette.com

As Media Matters for America documented, the media recently devoted extensive coverage to a report -- first "broken" by Politico senior political writer Ben Smith on April 16 -- that Democratic presidential candidate and former Sen. John Edwards' (NC) campaign spent $800 on two haircuts. The story was covered by major print, broadcast, and cable outlets, and often featured characterizations of Edwards as "pretty" and the "Breck girl" -- echoing Republican and conservative attacks on Edwards dating back to 2004. These same media outlets, however, have shown almost no interest in recent reports that the presidential campaign of former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) scheduled -- and then abruptly canceled -- a campaign rally at the home of two Iowa farmers because they were not wealthy enough to be affected by the estate tax. 

 

In a May 3 article, the Anamosa Journal-Eureka (Jones County, Iowa) reported: "Deb and Jerry VonSprecken of Olin received a call from former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's campaign office asking them if they would be interested in holding a campaign rally on May 4, after she had donated to his campaign." According to the article, the VonSpreckens, who "have a modest 80 acre farm and raise cattle," agreed to the proposal and prepared for a 75-100 person rally. However, according to Deb VonSprecken, the Giuliani campaign later canceled the event, telling her: "I'm sorry, you aren't worth a million dollars and he is campaigning on the Death Tax right now." According to the Journal-Eureka, a Giuliani campaign spokesman would not comment on the issue. As Media Matters has noted, Republicans and conservatives who support repealing the "death tax" (a poll-tested GOP buzzword for the estate tax) have claimed that it hurts family farms and small businesses -- when in fact a very small percentage of the affected estates -- 2 percent in 2004 -- in which more than half of the assets are farms and family-owned businesses. At the May 3 Republican presidential debate, Giuliani declared: "We have to get rid of the death tax."

Blogger and media critic Greg Sargent highlighted the Journal-Eureka article on May 10, confirmed the details of the story with the Iowan paper and the VonSpreckens, and wrote that the "Rudy campaign just confirmed to me that its non-denial to the paper is real." On May 11, Sargent reported that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) "put in a personal call today to an Iowa woman that was snubbed by Rudy Giuliani's campaign, asking to meet with her and apologizing to her on 'behalf of all politicians,' the woman told me this evening."

However, a Media Matters Nexis search revealed that this story has been almost completely ignored by the media in the 11 days since it was first reported, even after McCain's reported phone call. The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and USA Today have not reported on the story. In his May 14 "Media Notes Extra" online column, Post media critic Howard Kurtz noted that the story "has gained some traction in the liberal blogosphere," but he dismissed blogger Kevin Drum's observation that "Giuliani's gang was playing an old time conservative game: trying to find a family farm that would eventually have to be sold in order to pay inheritance

taxes," writing: "Come on -- don't all politicians look for people who illustrate the problem that their plan (on taxes, Social Security, whatever) is going to solve?" When asked about the story during a May 11 washingtonpost.com online discussion, Washington Post congressional reporter Jonathan Weisman

responded: "There really aren't too many farmers affected by the death tax, although most of them think they are, so if

that's his criteria, he's gonna have some trouble stumping in farm country." The Politico's Smith and Jonathan Martin noted the

story on their respective blogs, but it was completely ignored by CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, CBS, and NBC. ABC noted the story on its Political Radar weblog on May 12.

Giuiliani In Drag photo from:thebluerepublic.com 


Conservative media tout flawed poll to call Dems 9-11 conspiracy theorists

Several conservative commentators have misrepresented the results of an April 20-May 1 Rasmussen Results poll question -- which was itself ambiguous -- to accuse a substantial percentage of Democrats of believing that President Bush knew about the 9-11 attacks in advance and deliberately did nothing to stop them. According to Rasmussen Reports, respondents were asked, "Did Bush know about the 9/11 attacks in advance?" Twenty-two percent replied that he did, 55 percent that he did not, and 22 percent were not sure. According to the poll: "Thirty-five percent of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure. Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."

In his May 15 nationally syndicated column, titled "Just How Crazy Are the Dems?" National Review Online editor-at-large Jonah Goldberg claimed that the poll found Democrats "are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance," and declared that "a majority of Democrats in this country are out of their gourds." Yet as Goldberg himself admitted, the poll question was ambiguous. As Goldberg said, "Many Democrats are probably merely saying that Bush is incompetent or that he failed to connect the dots or that they're just answering in a fit of pique." In other words, respondents could have been merely saying that Bush received ample warning of possible attacks.

Indeed, President Bush received a briefing on August 6, 2001, titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US," which indicated that Osama bin Laden wanted to conduct terrorist attacks on U.S. cities, that members of his Al Qaeda terrorist network had lived in or traveled to the U.S. for years, that bin Laden had previously said he wanted to hijack an American aircraft, and that "FBI information since that time indicate[d] patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings." Investigative journalist Ron Suskind wrote in his

 

Image: www.piratenews.org 

 book The One Percent Doctrine: Deep Inside America's Pursuit of Its Enemies Since 9/11 (Simon & Schuster, June 2006) that Bush responded to this report by telling his CIA briefer, "All right, you've covered your ass."

Others have also touted this poll but ignored the ambiguity of the question entirely, in some cases misrepresenting the question and responses and ridiculing Democratic voters as delusional conspiracy theorists.

  • On the May 7 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly characterized the poll question as having said more than it actually did -- that "35 percent of American Democratic voters believe President Bush knew about the 9-11 attacks in advance and allowed them to happen." He later claimed that it indicated that "35 percent of Democratic voters believe that President Bush stood by and allowed 3,000 Americans to die on the streets." O'Reilly repeatedly referred to this as "madness," and claimed, "Sane people do not make that kind of leap."
  • On the May 7 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh claimed that according to the poll, "35 percent of this country's Democrats think that there was a government conspiracy about this and allowed these attacks to happen." He asserted that due to the poll, that "it's no longer funny to call [Democrats] kooks and freaks and so forth. This is -- they are deranged, dangerously uninformed, misinformed, or what have you." He continued: "The Democrat [sic] Party is not mainstream. It is literally a bunch of deranged, delusional radicals." Limbaugh postulated the poll results were due to the influence of the American news media and education system, which had "poison[ed] people's minds" against Bush since the attacks of 9-11.
  • In a May 9 post to his blog at townhall.com, nationally syndicated radio host Michael Medved claimed that according to this poll, "a stunning 61% of Democrats believed that the President of the United States may well have collaborated in the murder of 3,000 of his fellow citizens." He cited this poll as proof of "Democratic paranoia and conspiracy mongering," which he asserted "pushes the party to the lunatic fringe and leftwing edge of national opinion."

 


Posted SwanDeer Project at 9:30 AM PDT
Updated: Sunday, 20 May 2007 9:45 AM PDT
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